Following closely behind the Americans were the Scandinavians,Europeans and,some distance behind these, the British commercial vehicle manufacturers. Browse our education events. Watch films on BFI Player. If you have any sense at all, you will not even try. I’m guessing that many of the people who are singing the praises of the ERGO are the same ones who agree that the reason why the Leyland group went down the tubes was because of it’s obsolete,inferior,retrograde, products and bad management decisions compared to it’s foreign competition. I think the US cabovers were over here not the most loved i speak out of Belgium and think for much of the European markets, a big cab yes but with no space,hard suspension not the say nothing,much less comfort,long turning circles,difficult to find parts whereas all were US designed,almost no dealers and so on.
He replied that, when he was there, there were blokes on the production line carrying hand-held drills with reamers in them. Teaching film, TV and media studies. I think that this style excercise took place around 74ish? Skip to main content. If we are to speculate that European legislation should have allowed larger cabs in the s, then we must assume that the manufacturing and structural advantages of European monocoque design would have made them to a superior standard than those from across the water. Tue Sep 15, 6: Cheerio for now Saviem Gone but not forgotten.
Read industry research and statistics. For a restoration project and plaything I’d go for an AEC Marshall flatbed with a nicely sheeted load just above cab height, dark blue cab with Post Office red chassis, wheels and mudguards and because I just can’t help myself, it would have to have a chrome bumper Second choice would be a Mercury, so the same but with an axle missing, third would be a Leyland Beaver, same colours, but maybe pulling a cylindrical stainless steel tanker, I prefer the narrower front mudguards on the Beaver over the wider ones on the Mandator, so that would be the only reason it would be preferable to teh Southall built model, well unless I could find a V8 Mandator and then all bets are off, that would be number one, two and three on my list.
Use film and TV in my classroom. Production and development funding. For a start the ergo covered a full range from 16 ton rigids right up to top weight prime movers. Considering Volvo,Scania,Mercedes-Benz,et al,began producing refined American-style heavy lorries from the mid to late s-early s,the Scandinavian,European – and even certain British at least – lorry manufactures surpassed the American heavy motor truck manufacturers,at least in regard to standard long distance heavy duty freight trunking lorries Erhomatic.
Best Ergomatic Cabbed-Lorry Model? In the wrong place at the wrong time Top Re: Especially when you could probably order a Crusader with the AEC V8 in it if you really didn’t want a Detroit or a Rolls in it instead. Sat Jul 21, The one thing that I did not like about the Ergomatic Cab was that it took away the external identity and individuality of the AEC,Albion and Leyland commercial ervomatic marques!
Although that old ‘s Bullnose KW with a small cam Cummins in it seemed about as good as could be expected to me. Remember when going scotch if from the southor going down to the smoke if from the northwas long distance? Film industry statistics fklm reports. Still not a patch on an eight wheeler from Watford though. The Leyland Ergomatic Cab I’m saying nowt, for fear of being Moderated. Nobody has disagreed that the original Ergo was mounted a foot or so too low to compete strongly against the European competition, and should have had a fully-tilting structure.
For once, grant these people the courtesy of acknowledging their superior learning. The cab is an assembly of multiple small extrusions, brackets and sheets.
The Ergo’s original design issues were resolved inwhen it was fitted to the Marathon, and you will not convince anyone on here that a s US cab of the same length BBC would be superior to that, in any way.
My dream Ergo would be one of these, with the turbo engine and all the toys on that advert that I posted, including the massager in the passenger seat! He replied that, when he was there, there were blokes on the production line carrying hand-held drills with reamers in them.
Regarding the AEC prototype mentioned earlier: One is tempted to ask, without the corrosion problems of steel, why it needed a three-year restoration in the first place. Which seems to fit in with the performance of that old ‘s KW Bullnose cab assuming that it was built to those in some cases arguable ‘dodgy’ US construction standards.
Good day ploughing, so for reward I shall have several Bollingers, for we are now starting to make progress!! I’m guessing that many of the people who are singing the praises of the Fipm are the same ones who agree that the reason why the Leyland group went down the tubes was because of it’s obsolete,inferior,retrograde, products and bad management decisions compared to it’s foreign competition. Although having said lwyland even that old ‘s design KW Bullnose that I posted seemed to have been strong and rigidly enough built to run on rough unmade roads erglmatic shaking itself to pieces which seems to fit in with the way in which US designed and constructed cabs seem to have been able to perform in most cases through the years regardless.
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It’s not the usual red Robbo bashing it shows how a lot of union unrest was due to piss poor management along the way. Csb cabs or no steel cabs,American lorry drivers had the luxuries of adjustable seats,heaters, defrosters,air conditioning,armrests,radios,sound insulation,sleeper leylanf. It could have been a number one top selling truck if it had been equiped with a stronger and better engine as the P but with a Cummins,but with lower fuel consumption for our standards.
Courses, training and conferences for teachers. Keep on breathing, it helps. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. Mammoth major no contest. When driving a or F89 meant you were truly the king of the road?
So the the Leyland group Ergomatic Cab was definitely catching up with the likes of Volvo and Peterbilt! The answer is pretty clear from the narrative- apart from the thing lacking strength and rigidity overall, the proliferation of joints and attachment methods had begun to fail under cyclic loading, causing the cab to sag and collapse.
Fillm of my favourite AEC Ergomatic lorries,in specialist form, are these: I think that this style excercise took place around 74ish? However with experience of being fiom in the building and road testing of coachbuilt aluminium on steel frame bodies and cabs with some GRP thrown in for the cab roof which were built with the purpose of high speed off road use and having driven the next generation of Leyland cabs in the T45,let alone the Marathon or ERGO.
What ever happened to those drivers you spent hours with. Those who think s US truck design was so far ahead of the European norm, watch this: Maybe that feature, if added to this thread, would answer your question. So what was the best Ergo cabbed lorry then? That competition being US in the colonial markets and European and Scandivian in the domestic market and at least the European export markets.
Absolutely ridiculous,especially when that time was one of growing competition from the likes of Volvo and co. Selling to the BFI.
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The ERGO being one of those decisions. The colonial markets where they’ve always competed head on with each other suggests that’s not the ccab. Livery, since that has been mentioned- navy blue- brush paint and lacquer, flatted and compounded to a mirror finish, none of your girlie spray paint- red chassis and wheels, white roof. Tue Mar 12, 2: